Fast Chat: Ted Leonsis

Adweek: Being one of the pioneers of online advertising, how do you see the landscape now?

Leonsis: Well the first thing I’ll note is when I first got into the business, nobody at an ad agency was wired. We had to walk computers in to give demonstrations on what online was and what the Internet was. Now it’s gratifying to see that all of the senior execs at ad agencies and direct marketing companies are young, and they’ve grown up living their life on the Net. That’s been a big cultural change. We’ve seen this evolution from CPM display advertising, where we used to think there were 100,000 advertisers, to a CPC/Google search industry, where they created a long tail of 10 million advertisers, of which they invoice a couple of hundred thousand people and then the rest pay wiht their credit cards. That was a real big change.

Then we saw the CPA, the cost-per-acquisition, the Advertising.com, the birth of the third-party network that was going after direct marketing budgets as a low-cost media placement, one of service creating scale by using other people’s inventory. We’ve now been layering on top of that the new killer app on the Web, which is video. Video and social networking is the fastest growing part of the Internet. Email usage is going down; video consumption is going up. So we’re seeing video and television and cable being replicated on the Web. Your device, your iPad, is a portable TV more than it is a device that you use for email. And now I see on top of it the next great development. We’ve applied enough math and algorithmic marketing to budgets, to spending, and we’re going to start to find new ways to understand emotion. What compels people to act and think? That’s usually emotion, romance, affinity to a brand.

So we’ll see a lot of innovation around psychographic, around what makes people think and have an affinity towards a brand or a campaign or an advertiser, because that’s where value is created. In a world where the Web destroys value by making everything least common denominator, brands are going to become more important in this new world, and understanding profiling and psychographics will be the next big thing.

There’s always talk about this shift of brand dollars to online, and that’s usually tied to ads resonating emotionally. How far along the spectrum are we in that shift?

It’s still the last bastion where there are walls up between the new media and traditional media. Most of the brand advertising and advocacy advertising is still on television, still in print, where you need the real estate to be able to activate an emotion or deep thought. I think that with more profiling and psychographic information that’s available and now video being delivered in very clever and ubiquitous ways, you’ll see a tipping now where budgets will start to go where the usage is. We’ve certainly seen the search industry go from zero to $25-30 billion in a decade. That spending came from somewhere. We’ve certainly seen the online display business get to be $15-20 billion. That business came from someplace. But this video/television/long-form, that’s waiting to be unlocked, and I think we’ll see that with this commingling of video and social happening over the next four or five years.

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