Gwynne Pugh at Dwell on Design: In my schooling I really despaired planning because it was like nothing would ever get done, it was like herding cats. And I hate to say this, but at this end of my career, I really see the value of planning in making the biggest impact on communities.
Hockenberry: So you’re staying architects have the ability to learn on the job? Wow, incredible! We’re making the news today.