A Complex Interview


We conducted a feature interview with Complex publisher Rich Antoniello and editor Richard Martin, and they had some tough love for the MPA, big magazines’ corporate culture and people who call them “urban.”

  • Martin on the MPA’s diversity initiative: “There was a lot of patting each other on the back, or giving excuses. I think any diversity initiative is just lip-service.”
  • Antoniello on his experience at Wenner Media and National Georgraphic: “Every time you were looking to make a change in the magazine editorially, it was like turning the Titanic.”
  • Martin on ‘urban’: “When someone calls us ‘urban,’ and I get it a lot, I consider it straight-up racist.”

    And we consider this interview straight-up candid.

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