From the transcript of Wolf Blitzer‘s interview with Dick Cheney, talking about Osama bin Laden:
| CHENEY: …He doesn’t communicate, except perhaps by courier, he’s not up on the air, he’s not putting out videos, the way he did oftentimes in the past.
BLITZER: His number two, Ayman al-Zawahiri, is.
CHENEY: Zawahiri’s much more visible. Yes.
BLITZER: I mean, he’s on television almost as much as I am.
CHENEY: Well, I don’t know if anybody’s on as much as you are, Wolf, but — no, he’s more of a public figure than Osama is.