Q&A: FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr Talks About Winning the Race to 5G

These so-called millimeter waves—previously considered unusable for cell service because of their short range—are able to translate more data at faster speeds, making 5G networks more practical. But doing so requires hundreds of thousands more low-power antennas—and thus, more local fees and review processes. To speed 5G deployment, the FCC voted to curb city leaders’ ability to decide these regulations in September, and several major municipalities sued in response, a legal battle that remains ongoing.

Adweek spoke with FCC Commissioner Brendan Carr, a major advocate for faster 5G deployment, about what these auctions mean, why he’s confident in the agency’s chances in court and where America stands in the global arms race to the next wireless generation.

This interview has been condensed for length and clarity.

Adweek: What’s so critical about these auctions as they relate to 5G?
Carr: Two things need to happen from a regulatory perspective to get to 5G. One is spectrum—we need a lot more spectrum out there to enable 5G deployment, and one key piece is called high-band spectrum. Historically, wireless service was delivered using what we call low-band spectrum, and high-band spectrum was considered unusable for these types of mobile applications. And with some interesting technological innovations over the last couple years, high-band spectrum is now not only usable, but really beneficial for 5G because it has a lot more capacity than low-band spectrum. Carriers big and small right now are participating in the auction to determine who values that spectrum the most.

What else is the FCC doing to encourage 5G deployment?
A second piece of it that’s equally important is the infrastructure side. So a lot of your readers are familiar with 3G and 4G cellular service, and those deployments were marked by 200-foot towers, mostly. 5G is going to be hundreds of thousands of more small cell sites, but they’re going to be backpack-sized antennas that can fit onto utility poles and light poles.

From a federal regulatory perspective and from a state and local perspective, up until a couple months ago, those regulations treated every new cell site like it was a 200-foot tower—long processes, costly review processes. So we had to take action at the FCC to get what we call our regulations 5G-ready so we can enable this new wave of deployment. We issued a decision in March excluding these small cells from traditional federal and historic review procedures designed for these 200-foot towers that cut about $1.5 billion to $1.6 billion in red tape. Providers have reported that they are clearing small cells at six times the rate reported before.

Just in September, we issued a decision that addressed the state and local review process, and we saw that there were a number of states and cities that were really leading the way to make sure that small cells could get rolled out quickly in their jurisdictions. But there were a handful of cities and towns looking to tax 5G [and] propose high fees for the rollout. So we issued a decision that put some common-sense guardrails in place, that built on bipartisan ideas. We issued that decision in September—that’s expected to cut about $2 billion in red tape and speed the deployment of 5G.

Dozens of cities and other municipalities opposed the FCC’s move to curb their ability to charge small cell fees, and several later sued the agency, alleging federal overreach of local power. How do you see that resolving?
We were actually surprised to see the number of mayors and county officials that came out in support of our decision. Whenever you have a federal agency addressing an area where state and local governments have been active, as expected, there’s going to be pushback, and we’ve certainly seen that pushback, as you noted. But we’ve been surprised by the amount of support we’ve gotten from state and local officials. There are some that have sued and challenged the decision. That case is now progressing through the normal course of litigation, and I’m comfortable and confident as to where we are as a matter of federal law.

I saw you’ve been called “the FCC’s 5G crusader.” Does your view of 5G’s urgency differ from those of your colleagues?
At the FCC, or even more broadly, in the administration, everyone is really on board with trying to push forward and lean on 5G, because again, this is really, when you step back, about our country’s dominance in the next decade. So the White House is taking action, administrative agencies are taking action and independent agencies like the FCC are as well. Our Chairman [Ajit] Pai has been very aggressive on this. I’ve been speaking on this a lot and articulating a lot of ideas on this space—that may be why you see my name associated with it, but Chairman Pai and others across the federal government are equally eager to see us move forward with 5G.

Do you think enough is being done to keep the country in a good place in the global arms race, in relation to other countries?
Absolutely. There have been some challenges. China is our biggest competitor, for instance, and they have a very different system of government—to put it lightly—than the U.S. They can make command-and-control decisions that have not just a few downsides, [from] my perspective. When you look at what they’re doing in infrastructure, for instance, since 2015, they have deployed something in the order of 350,000 new cell sites. And in the U.S. over that same period of time, we have deployed just 30,000 sites. So we have a gap to close in terms of infrastructure. That’s why it was so critical that we issued those decisions in March and September. That’s going to help us close this very real infrastructure gap.

So I think the U.S. is in good shape, particularly with these reforms, but everyone around the globe is pushing forward to win the race to 5G. At the end of the day, the U.S. won the race to 4G, and you can see what that meant in terms of our country’s economic growth—to take one aspect, the app economy that thrives on 4G networks in this country. It’s no coincidence that we’ve been the tech and innovation hub across the world. A big piece of that is because we won the race to 4G.